5 Berth Hymer Camp 59 on LHD Fiat Ducato chassis (1993) – SOLD

UPDATE 22/10/2013: Our trusted and much-travelled companion has left us and is now in her new home. The post below thus describes her as she was, before sale. Kira and I both hope that her new family will have a long and happy association with her, much as we have enjoyed.

5 berth motorhome with 6 travel seats (4 forward facing and belted).

Hymer Eriba Camp 59 Nearside Front Corner

Nearside front three-quarter view showing double gas locker, fresh water filling point, Truma gas heater exhaust outlet, shore power connection, Thetford toilet cassette access door etc.

The motorhome in its normal travel mode with satellite dish down etc.

Hymer Eriba Camp 59 Offside Rear Corner

It takes less than 2 minutes to raise the satellite dish and wind out the Omnistor awning. The Omnistor bike rack is shown extended, capable of carrying either 4 bikes or a back-box; when not in use it folds up in seconds to reduce overall length. Note too the Omnistor top-box mounted on the roof, and stable door enabling the lower half to be closed (to keep pets and children in) while the top half is fixed open for ventilation.

Much loved Hymer Camp 59 on left-hand-drive Fiat Ducato chassis (1993) for sale. This was marketed in UK as Talbot Express, although it’s worth noting that Fiat offered options that Talbot didn’t. Full high-end German specification, with legendary Hymer build quality, and beautiful early-mid 1990s German craftsmanship. Professionally maintained for last 3 years, 155,000km from new, MoT & tax to July 2014. Recent new exhaust system, starter and leisure batteries.

Hymer Eriba Camp 59 Offside Front Three Quarter

Security handle folds back for travel, out to facilitate access, and forwards (as here) to lock onto door for greater physical security when leaving motorhome unattended in dubious areas. You can also see the vents (cool air in, warm air out, exhaust out) for the 3-way Electrolux fridge, and (tucked up under the awning) the side-view camera that switches on automatically with the right indicator.

5.9m long (6.1m including raised bike rack), 2.9m high without top box (3.0m high with top box), 2.2m wide. Tow bar. Roof rack & ladder with checker-plate on roof. UK-spec headlights and tail light configuration.

Hymer Eriba Camp 59 Nearside Rear Three Quarter

Note the satellite dish erected and bike rack folded down (it takes seconds to fold up when not neded). You can also see the reversing camera, roof access ladder, factory-fitted roof-rack, towbar and external access door for the rear under-seat storage (small garage) which can also be accessed from inside.

Based on the heavy-duty chassis cab (unlike most similar UK vehicles) this Fiat Ducato benefits from a 2.5 litre Iveco turbo diesel engine, giving approx 95bhp with lots of torque (and is thus a joy to drive compared with the under-powered and thirsty UK-spec 2.0 litre petrol engine). 5 speed manual gearbox with column change. Commercial van specification Uniroyal Rain Max tyres with lots of tread remaining. Factory standard power assisted steering (PAS).

Looking over the driver's shoulder. Note battery charging voltage and rear view camera display, also well-placed cup holder (passenger has one too).

Average 25-30mpg (town/motorway). Cruises comfortably at 55-60mph all day, will do 70+ when needed.

View through passenger door. Arm rests can all be adjusted individually or folded up as required.

ISRI Captain’s seats in cab (both driver and passenger) with twin fold-up adjustable arm-rests. Two belted travel seats in habitation cabin, plus two unbelted travel seats in habitation cabin (i.e. 6 travel seats total, 4 with belts). A hand-held fire extinguisher is mounted just behind the driver’s seat and can be rapidly accessed from both front seats, or from the cabin, if required. There is a useful amount of easily accessible storage space under the driver’s seat.

Looking back from the cab into the cabin. The 4 passenger travel seats are shown, two have seat belts (so 4 belts total in vehicle). The table can be removed in seconds and stowed upright in slot in bathroom during travel if wished.

5 berths (1 double overcab with blown air heating under; 1 double in main dining area; 1 single in rear dining area), I’m 6′ tall and can easily stretch out in the overcab bed. 2 dining tables (4 seats & 2 seats). Extremely versatile and flexible layout with many possible configuration options (see photos for some ideas).

The view looking backwards from the overcab bed. Note control panel for blown air heating, water bolier, car/house battery voltage checks, fresh/grey water level checks, mains power point etc. Sorry about the clutter but we use this campervan frequently...

Large wardrobe, lots of overhead cupboards and under-seat storage. Rear under-seat storage also accessible from outside so great for ramps, cables, hoses etc. 3 sky-lights that can be opened on any side or fully, all fitted with fly screens. Habitation cabin Dometic Seitz S4 top-hinged windows are tinted and double-glazed throughout with fly screens and blinds on all windows (note DIY repair to kitchen blind – if wanted this could easily be replaced with Remis Take-n-Trim blind repair kit which didn’t exist when I did it 7 years ago). Security handrail both aids access and secures across cabin door when unattended. This motor-caravan is carpeted throughout but it is all easily removable to reveal an easy-clean green speckled lino below in as-new condition.

View looking down into bathroom. Carpet removed to show detail of shower tray. Normally we keep carpet in so that motorhome is fully carpeted throughout (nicer in bare feet, like at home).

Truma blown air heating with multiple closable outlets including blown air under the overcab bed and in bathroom (great for drying wet clothes overnight). Truma water heating with 10 litre hot water tank. 135 litre internal fresh water storage (prevents freezing) plus grey water tank. Electric flush Thetford cassette toilet, full height shower in bathroom (original carpet included though not shown in photo), mixer tap in kitchen. Manufacturer’s original instruction manuals included.

Looking into the batroom at eye level. Shower spray unit hooks into clip in bathroom ceiling when required.

Kathrein TRANSMARE MobiSat TV Satellite dish on roof, can be both elevated and aligned from inside wardrobe. Satellite tuner and pull-out shelf for TV (all unused for last 7 years as I removed the TV immediately after purchase). Stereo speakers for radio/CD/DVD etc. in rear cabin.

The kitchen. Note detail of stable door to left in picture.

Fair sized kitchen with 3 burner SMEV gas hob. 3-way Electrolux fridge with freezer compartment (230v, 12v, gas).

3 way Electrolux fridge/freezer is fully built in under 3 burner SMEV hob. Note detail of fly/privacy screen now hanging over access door.

Wire vegetable rack, cutlery tray, rubbish bin and generous storage for pans etc. under with cupboards and shelves above.

Looking forwards from near the bathroom door. Note how both cab and overcab bed can easily be screened off for privacy using curtains.

120Ah VRLA Leoch AGM leisure battery plus mains charger both mounted under front passenger seat, identical second battery included to fit under driver’s seat included if required (so 240Ah total). 230v 50Hz, 300 watt inverter (ideal for laptops, charging camera batteries etc.) fitted. This motorhome is happy running for days without electric hook-up (which saves hookup fees on campsites, as well as making the free European motorhome stopovers and wild-camping anywhere a breeze).

The original bonded lino remains in as-new condition under the genuine Hymer carpets (which are easily removed when needed)

Cabin is watertight with no known leaks or drips in any weather, but there is some residual damp in both a small wall area and cabin floor near door, caused prior to re-sealing 5+ years ago. Retractable step removed and floor area plated over for strength (see photo).

The floor strengthing patch clearly shown with all carpet removed.

Both original step with curved blanking plate and Fiamma caravan step that we use are included in sale. Both floor and wall can be fixed professionally or DIY (see Talbot Owners Club forum for many examples), or just live with it like us, as you prefer.

With the carpet replaced the patched floor is barely noticeable and access is easy using the Fiamma caravan step (included in sale). As a bonus, it's now impossible to accidentally drive off with the original retracting step extended...

The Hymer cabin is very well insulated and I have slept comfortably in the heated overcab bed when it has been -10C outside with the heater on tickover. I’ve spoken with people who have taken their Hymer’s skiing at -25C without problem. Standard Hymer gas system includes automatic switchover between bottles, with indicator light inside cabin when switched, plus selectable cold-weather heating of gas supply to prevent icing. There’s a stable door too, meaning you can open just the top half if you want ventilation without your children climbing in and out.

Main dining area as seen from overcab bed. These are also the 4 nominated travel seats. The two forward facing seats have belts (as obviously do the two in the cab).

Example extras fitted & included: 4m Omnistor awning (now c. £750 new), Omnistor roof box (now c. £300 new), Omnistor cycle rack (4 bikes – now c. £350 new) + cover, tow-bar & electrics (now over £500 new – I regularly used to tow a 9′ long x 7′ high x 6’6” wide box trailer made from an old caravan with racing kart, tools, fuel etc. inside it), etc.

Looking forwards at the dining area after it has been converted to a double bed. Note how the bed is now wider than the dining area by virtue of sliding out extensions, thus providing sufficient width for two adults to sleep in comfort. You can use the bed without the extension too if you only want one person sleeping there, thus keeping the passage wider.

Optionally available at negotiable extra cost: 2x Gaslow refillable 21 kg LPG cylinders (professional conversion, £550 fitted new); 2x Waeco reversing & side-view cameras with colour, infra-red night vision & sound to LCD monitor on dashboard (£750 fitted new); high-end Pioneer stereo (WMA/MP3/AAC/RDS/DAB/etc. 200w total + iPod adapter – £700 new); Omnistor Safari Room & curtains (now c. £950 new); Vango Sapera Tall driveaway inflatable AirBeam AirAway awning (£570 new).

There's space for two to dine in comfort (or 3 at a pinch) at the rear, or the table removes in seconds to provide a lounging area with backrests. The storage space under the back seat can also be accessed from outside.

Current owner (me) for last 7 years following private import from Germany. Growing family forces reluctant sale (had 1 child when bought in 2006, now have 3 children & 1 German Shepherd dog…).

The rear dining area quickly converts into a single bed. In this configuration there is also good storage space under the table. This is how we usually run.

Supremely reliable and easy to maintain, without complex electronics as on later models. We’ve taken this motor caravan all over UK & Europe (England, Wales, Scotland, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Spain, Italy…) and it’s never let us down once.

The transversely mounted Fiat/Iveco 2.5 litre turbo diesel engine and big starter battery. Note the reassuring lack of complex electronics, this is an engine that anyone can fix anywhere if necessary. I found the 95bhp sufficient but there's room for a custom-built intercooler too if you want more power.

If you’re planning a trip to Eastern Europe (Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova etc.) this campervan probably offers the ideal combination of simplicity, reliability, economy and comfort for the perfect trip. If you have Morocco or further afield in mind you may wish to first refit the protective (heavy duty commercial) under-tray which is included in the price and currently removed for ease of servicing.

Hymer Eriba Camp 59 Tow Bar Towbar

Towbar is fitted and suitable for towing small trailers etc. I have often towed a box trailer built on an old caravan chassis, and we had originally intended to use this to tow an A-framed car.

For just £6,995 for a quick sale (soon to be advertised elsewhere at £7,700 – at which point I’ll return to edit this line) you can enjoy what is undoubtedly one of the finest designed and built small motorcaravans of its time – the Hymer Camp 59.

Some of the many labels Hymer were proud to attach to the body during manufacture, all features we have enjoyed over the years.

There’s a lot of equipment on this vehicle so if required I’ll happily talk a new owner through it all until they feel absolutely comfortable.

Full size overcab bed made up and ready for use. There's plenty of width for two adults side by side. As to length, I'm 6' tall and can stretch out without problem. There's blown air heating underneath the mattress too.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is a private sale of our own personal family vehicle and is in no way connected to the business. For more details please contact Andrew direct. UPDATE 22/10/2013 This motorhome is now sold…

Double overcab bed with bunk safety net raised. This is useful if you want children to sleep up there, or simply to store things while travelling without risk of them falling down.

If you have any questions please contact me as above, or leave your question as a comment below. If you’d like to help us find a new home for our trusted companion, in which we have been so many places and had so much fun over the years, please pass this post on to your friends or Like it on Facebook etc.

Genuine Hymer, can be traced back to factory. Traditional German build quality.

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5 Responses to 5 Berth Hymer Camp 59 on LHD Fiat Ducato chassis (1993) – SOLD

  1. Emma says:

    I’m worried about it being left hand drive. Wouldn’t I be better off with a Talbot Express which is right hand drive?

    • Andrew says:

      Speaking for myself, Emma, I’d much rather have a left hand drive motorhome for a large number of reasons. For example:

      1) When I’m driving in UK it doesn’t really worry me because I’m so familiar with our road system that I hardly notice, and this isn’t exactly a sports car so I’m not too worried about visibility for pulling out to overtake things (and I can see over car roofs anyway).

      2) When I’m driving in Europe, where I’m clearly less familiar with the road system than at home, I consider it a positive advantage to be in a left hand drive vehicle. If I was sat in a right hand drive Talbot I’d not only be “driving on the wrong side of the road” but I’d be sat on the wrong side of the vehicle whilst doing it too! To my mind, this is a potentially far less happy combination than LHD in UK.

      3) I’m right handed, and in a LHD vehicle such as this my radio, sat nav, reversing cameras etc. (which all sit towards the centre of the vehicle) are all positioned within easy reach of my right hand. I find this far easier thay trying to type left handed, and in truth this often makes me wish we had LHD vehicles in UK too.

      It’s worth considering too that Fiat offered things like a more powerful diesel engine and power steering as standard, while very few UK-spec talbots have either of these niceties, and that Hymer (with their well-deserved reputation for quality) never built on the Talbot platform.

      I know what my own preference is, and I expressed it clearly 7 years ago when I choose and bought the motorhome I’m selling here. I’ll be buying leaft hand drive again this time, there’s no way I want a right hand drive motorhome.

      Andrew

  2. Josh says:

    What’s the maximum payload?

    • Andrew says:

      Josh,

      I’ll answer this from memory, so if the answer is critical to you then we’ll obviously need to get things a little more accurate.

      My recollection is that while I was getting the first UK MoT done the test station weighed the motorhome for me and informed me that, as it sat there, it weighed in at around 2,100kg. That was probably with about 2/3 tank of diesel (following a final fill in France), awning, top-box etc. but as I can’t see much point of a vehicle without fuel we’ll call that the Mass In Running Order (MIRO).

      I also have a recollection that the the maximum plated weight (or maximum GVW) is 3,100kg.

      If the above recollections are correct then the maximum payload, as it stands, is slightly over 1,000kg.

      Like any campervan though that 1,000kg payload will get used up on things like awning, roof box, satellite dish, more fuel, gas bottles (the LPG system wasn’t in at this stage so the locker was empty), water, people, food etc. However, it’s still a lot more generous than a great many more modern vehicles built on light-duty chassis. As I said in the above post, this Hymer was built on Fiat’s heavy-duty version of the chassis.

      While I haven’t found it necessary to do this, I believe that it’s also possible to change the plated weight on this chassis from 3,100kg up to 3,500kg. Because the chassis/suspension/brakes/gearbox etc. was built to safely handle this 3.5 tonnes from the outset, I believe this is purely a legal & administrative exercise rather than a technical or mechanical one. If done this would then also increase the payload by a further 400kg (which is an awful lot of wine and beer on the trip back home…) to a very impressive 1,400kg.

      In fact that additional 400kg is in itself more than the total maximum payload of some lightly-built modern motorhomes. Food for thought if you’re wondering where to spend your money, and you don’t want something that’s almost impossible to use in practice…

      Andrew

  3. Andrew says:

    I’ve just replaced the previous four rather dirty looking exterior photos taken five weeks ago at the end of a month-long trip across France and Italy, touring the lakes with our canoe, with four clean ones taken yesterday afternoon so you can now get a much clearer idea of what you’re buying. These new photos show exactly what the motorhome looks like now, as I type…